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In Sydney network maps have tended to show full time non-stopping eg the suburban and main lines through Macdonaldtown etc shown as non-stop. Bris too.

Also, if you think about it, Melbourne’s network maps don’t need to keep showing the express route between Newport and Laverton, unless you are showing all express routes (eg. Darling to Richmond).

Sorry about the previous comment being too long. It is a bad habit of mine.

Mike, fantastic train/tram network map – very professional appearance and it looks the best of any Melbourne maps I’ve seen. I agree with Riccardo that heavy rail should be emphasised as the trunk routes. Perhaps your map could be put on the trams and a different map (with the rail lines colour coded and the trams black and white) used on the trains.

Calembeena, interesting idea for the trainlink services – but for some reason I can’t zoom in on the map so can’t see all the detail of the proposed routes.

Jason and Riccardo, I’d love to see the level of detail you’re talking about at stations here. Would help casual users substantially.

Jason

the best PID I ahve seen is typified by HK where you have

-network map
-locality map with surrounding streets and landmarks shown and
-vicinity map with station exists shown and bus stop locations shown

So when you want to go to Aqua at 1 Peking Rd, TST and you’ve never been there before you get the Tsuen Wan line to TST.

Then emerge from the platform to the concourse and look at the neighbourhood map, you find the landmark from among the surrounding buildings then find the right station exit (out of 12 or so from memory) to get you from the concourse to the surround streets.

Now I dare you to try the same trick at Melbourne Central and see how you find out the way to RMIT building 16 from platform 4 Flagstaff end.

At the end of the journey, users will step out of a station, or out the door of a tram and want to be confident of where they are. This is obviously true for casual users, but in a PT-dominant system, everyone would be a ‘casual user’ sometimes. i.e. they would be taking PT to somewhere they don’t routinely go and don’t know well.

A good map limits the need to have a street map and a tram/train map concurrently.

Fitting the real world into the PT map and retaining navigability is a major challenge. Barring a few major inner-city landmarks, I think the most elegant solution is akin to what was proposed by riccado relating to trams above. That is to say that names of lines, stops and stations should be changed to make the geographical information they carry as relevant as possible.

For example, Hawksburn station could be usefully renamed as Williams Rd Toorak, rather than being named after a mythical area. North Melbourne Station is a good example of a useful name. The station is in fact in West Melbourne, but it is named after the major trip-generator nearby. In my plan the names of stations would be a little longer, – perhaps the nearby roads could be put under the station name in smaller print?

The Melways shows where the trams and trains go – it should be the goal of the PT maps to show where the roads go!

Riccardo, certainly Cran/Pak to Craigieburn is the Bogan Belt Line. Who needs evocative when you can have the truth.

Calembeena