Comments on: Calculating rail line construction costs in light of the Eddington Report http://melbpt.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/calculating-rail-line-construction-costs-in-light-of-the-eddington-report/ public transport issues and economics in Melbourne Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:52:53 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: The Eddington Strikes Back « it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a train to cry… http://melbpt.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/calculating-rail-line-construction-costs-in-light-of-the-eddington-report/#comment-678 The Eddington Strikes Back « it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a train to cry… Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:53:42 +0000 http://melbpt.wordpress.com/?p=98#comment-678 [...] and my ideas hadn’t changed. Moreover, we had some good discussion on the issues here, here, here and here; and Riccardo did a great series of posts on improving capacity on the Pakenham line. [...] [...] and my ideas hadn’t changed. Moreover, we had some good discussion on the issues here, here, here and here; and Riccardo did a great series of posts on improving capacity on the Pakenham line. [...]

]]> By: Phin http://melbpt.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/calculating-rail-line-construction-costs-in-light-of-the-eddington-report/#comment-479 Phin Sun, 04 May 2008 04:31:48 +0000 http://melbpt.wordpress.com/?p=98#comment-479 Note that I've now edited this post to account for the issues raised by Greg. cheers, Phin Note that I’ve now edited this post to account for the issues raised by Greg.

cheers,
Phin

]]> By: Phin http://melbpt.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/calculating-rail-line-construction-costs-in-light-of-the-eddington-report/#comment-477 Phin Sun, 04 May 2008 04:22:53 +0000 http://melbpt.wordpress.com/?p=98#comment-477 Greg, regarding the costs of Paramatta-Epping compared to Epping-Chatswood, this site http://www.railnow.org.au/downloads/A20041015RDMPRL.pdf may be of interest Greg, regarding the costs of Paramatta-Epping compared to Epping-Chatswood, this site
http://www.railnow.org.au/downloads/A20041015RDMPRL.pdf
may be of interest

]]> By: Phin http://melbpt.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/calculating-rail-line-construction-costs-in-light-of-the-eddington-report/#comment-476 Phin Sun, 04 May 2008 04:20:14 +0000 http://melbpt.wordpress.com/?p=98#comment-476 Thanks for the tip Greg! I've done a bit more research on the issue, and you can find the results at http://melbpt.wordpress.com/2008/05/04/issues-with-epping-chatswood-in-my-recent-rail-construction-costs-post/ Thanks for the tip Greg! I’ve done a bit more research on the issue, and you can find the results at http://melbpt.wordpress.com/2008/05/04/issues-with-epping-chatswood-in-my-recent-rail-construction-costs-post/

]]> By: Issues with Epping-Chatswood in my recent rail construction costs post « it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a train to cry… http://melbpt.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/calculating-rail-line-construction-costs-in-light-of-the-eddington-report/#comment-475 Issues with Epping-Chatswood in my recent rail construction costs post « it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a train to cry… Sun, 04 May 2008 04:19:09 +0000 http://melbpt.wordpress.com/?p=98#comment-475 [...] costs post Posted on May 4, 2008 by Phin You may recall that in my recent post on Calculating rail line construction costs in light of the Eddington report, I compared the projected Eddington costs to empirical data (namely Mandurah and Epping-Chatswood). [...] [...] costs post Posted on May 4, 2008 by Phin You may recall that in my recent post on Calculating rail line construction costs in light of the Eddington report, I compared the projected Eddington costs to empirical data (namely Mandurah and Epping-Chatswood). [...]

]]> By: Greg http://melbpt.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/calculating-rail-line-construction-costs-in-light-of-the-eddington-report/#comment-469 Greg Sun, 04 May 2008 02:33:17 +0000 http://melbpt.wordpress.com/?p=98#comment-469 I believe that the costs of the Epping to Chatswood line actually have blown out to about $2.2 billion. http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/rail-to-epping-has-to-be-relaid/2008/02/27/1203788353920.html That is the figure quoted in the above article (which otherwise seems to have been false in its claims) and is similar to what I remember being reported a while back... with people complaining that it was going to cost more for Epping to Chatswood than the original estimate for the whole proposal from Parramatta to Chatswood. I believe that the costs of the Epping to Chatswood line actually have blown out to about $2.2 billion.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/rail-to-epping-has-to-be-relaid/2008/02/27/1203788353920.html

That is the figure quoted in the above article (which otherwise seems to have been false in its claims) and is similar to what I remember being reported a while back… with people complaining that it was going to cost more for Epping to Chatswood than the original estimate for the whole proposal from Parramatta to Chatswood.

]]> By: Getting rail to Chadstone and Monash University « it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a train to cry… http://melbpt.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/calculating-rail-line-construction-costs-in-light-of-the-eddington-report/#comment-443 Getting rail to Chadstone and Monash University « it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a train to cry… Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:09:19 +0000 http://melbpt.wordpress.com/?p=98#comment-443 [...] Cost using the NCCCS [...] [...] Cost using the NCCCS [...]

]]> By: Phin http://melbpt.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/calculating-rail-line-construction-costs-in-light-of-the-eddington-report/#comment-442 Phin Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:28:21 +0000 http://melbpt.wordpress.com/?p=98#comment-442 Sorry Riccardo - for some reason it ended up in the spam folder. Thanks for the link - confirms that WA is way ahead of anywhere else in the country when it comes to delivering high quality rail projects at a reasonable cost. With the mining boom costs should be if anything higher than in Victoria because of exceptionally strong labour demand driving up wages. Yet, they manage to get things done cost effectively. I wonder why we can't do the same. Sorry Riccardo – for some reason it ended up in the spam folder. Thanks for the link – confirms that WA is way ahead of anywhere else in the country when it comes to delivering high quality rail projects at a reasonable cost. With the mining boom costs should be if anything higher than in Victoria because of exceptionally strong labour demand driving up wages. Yet, they manage to get things done cost effectively. I wonder why we can’t do the same.

]]> By: Riccardo http://melbpt.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/calculating-rail-line-construction-costs-in-light-of-the-eddington-report/#comment-440 Riccardo Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:32:11 +0000 http://melbpt.wordpress.com/?p=98#comment-440 Did this get through? http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/scripts/viewarticle.asp?NID=1952 Did this get through?

http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/scripts/viewarticle.asp?NID=1952

]]> By: Riccardo http://melbpt.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/calculating-rail-line-construction-costs-in-light-of-the-eddington-report/#comment-439 Riccardo Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:31:25 +0000 http://melbpt.wordpress.com/?p=98#comment-439 Phin, I've posted a link to the Geraldton Southern Transport Corridor http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/scripts/viewarticle.asp?NID=1952 $88m for 12kms including a couple of decent overpasses and large number of sidings (IIRC). Single track but earthworks for double track. Phin, I’ve posted a link to the Geraldton Southern Transport Corridor

http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/scripts/viewarticle.asp?NID=1952

$88m for 12kms including a couple of decent overpasses and large number of sidings (IIRC). Single track but earthworks for double track.

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